Tuesday, December 14, 2010

Why Muslim Immigration Should be Halted

This post, I think, makes a compelling case for halting Muslim immigration into western countries. This may sound harsh, especially since we've been influenced by the civil rights era and our view of the equality of people. I think it can be argued that controlling immigration is not devaluing human beings, and therefore isn't subject to the same kinds of criticism as racism and American segregation are. Countries have a responsibility to protect their borders and to control immigration in order to maintain cohesion in their societies, and the post I linked to shows that this just isn't possible with Muslims.

Read it before you comment, because I'm not going to interact with people who have obviously not given the post a chance.

10 comments:

Ryan Anderson said...

So would this be a religious test, a country of origin test or a skin color test? Doesn't seem practical or

I think Muslims are as loony as you folks are, if not more, but we seem to give up the best part of ourselves when we let our fears and hatreds control us.

bossmanham said...

It would be a worldview test.

The only reason the new atheists and Christians make it work here is because atheists are piggy backing off of our morals and values.

You're even taking our holidays off. Tad hypocritical, eh?

Ryan Anderson said...

How does one conduct a worldview test?

Still not seeing this can be practically applied.

SLW said...

bossmanham,
I am not unsympathetic to the thought, but very uncertain as to the practice. What would keep such a policy from having unforeseen consequences (e.g. rules being applied arbitrarily to immigrating Christians) or even resulting in retributive policies being employed by foreign governments against Americans seeking to live and work elsewhere (like missionaries)? I think some sort of a worldview test would be in order, but what more could it be than agreeing with the Bill of Rights?

bossmanham said...

Ryan,

Probably on the application for immigration. The problem there is in Islam, it's okay to lie to advance Islam.

SLW,

You may have a point there, and as I've thought more about it I've wondered about the issues this would bring up.

I think the point the author of the article would make is that the Muslim religion itself is incompatible with the values our country was founded on. Ideologically, if they are to remain consistent, they can't say the bill of rights is okay.

Ryan Anderson said...

Yeah, this is how your predecessors felt about the Irish. I’m not saying we should just roll over, but the notion that the America of our youth or the America of our parents can be retained is just a pipe dream. Just enjoy the ride.

SLW said...

...the Muslim religion itself is incompatible with the values our country was founded on. Ideologically, if they are to remain consistent, they can't say the bill of rights is okay.

Very true, but just as there are liberal and nominal Christians who hold to ideas that are contraindicated by the Bible, so too are there Muslims who do not hold to ideas consistent with the Qur'an (not to say that it is consistent with itself). I suppose an oath could be administered, but then could it be trusted since, under certain circumstances, lying is allowable for Muslims?

It makes perfect self and liberty-preserving sense to exclude them, I just don't know how to single out one religion without the possibility of backsplash against others. I think any exclusion would have to be on some sort of a political basis, like the Bill of Rights. The establishment clause would have to be used against them with the same relish as it has against Christians of late. If they cannot accept by word and action the inapplicability of ummah and Sharia to society in America, then they ought to be excluded from coming and deported if already here.

zilch said...

I agree that this is a sticky issue, but I too don't see how you can apply a "worldview test". Terrorists of any stripe can and do lie.

I don't think there are any simple solutions to the problem of terrorism.

cheers from snowy Vienna, zilch

Byron said...

"This may sound harsh, especially since we've been influenced by the civil rights era and our view of the equality of people."
Yeah, those civil rights sure did us a lot of harm. It's time to TURN BACK THE CLOCK!!

bossmanham said...

Byron, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, since atheists are pretty adept at taking things out of context.